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Scott Melker · Oct 27, 2026 · 56 min

Bitcoin's Bear Market Is OVER - But Wall Street Is Split

The panel argues Bitcoin likely bottomed in June and that fundamentals and infrastructure in crypto are strong even as price narratives and ETF interest look washed out. They discuss volatility as the new norm, repricing of commodities, the integration of crypto rails into traditional finance (tokenization, perps, Wall Street market makers), AI agents lowering the barrier to trading, and the remaining market-structure and security weaknesses in crypto.

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Where they stand

Crypto

Bullish

The panel believes Bitcoin bottomed in June, sees dips in the 70s as buying opportunities, and thinks institutional and infrastructure adoption is strong despite weak sentiment and ETF flows.

Medium conviction · months

Markets

Neutral

Markets are confused and volatile, with commodities being repriced and investors both bullish and braced for a crash.

Low conviction · months

AI

Bullish

AI is seen as a disruptive force that lets individuals build trading tools, shrinks the role of UIs, and justifies large investment.

Medium conviction · years

Key takeaways

  1. Austin Federa says he is in the 'it bottomed in June' camp, and describes markets as confused, with everyone both bullish and expecting a crash. 2:13
  2. Volatility is the new norm; commodities like oil and silver are being repriced, and Bitcoin will move violently in both directions. 3:51
  3. Weak narratives and zero flows in most spot Bitcoin ETFs are read as a narrative bottom; any dip into the 70s is called a gift on a 12-18 month view. 6:37
  4. Crypto fundamentals are strong: new venues, tokenized assets like uranium and Tesla, and RWA latency arbitrage show the thesis of cheaper settlement and wider access is playing out. 9:58
  5. AI agents will build trading programs and reduce the importance of exchange UIs, closing the gap between retail and market-making firms. 14:55
  6. Wall Street firms like Citadel, Millennium and Jane Street hold spot Bitcoin ETFs hedged with CME shorts, which is taken as evidence of deep liquidity and legitimacy. 26:41
  7. Crypto is becoming the plumbing of the financial system (Hyperliquid perps onshored via Kraken, DTCC tokenized settlement, Ripple trust bank), though tokens may not capture the value. 28:55
  8. Crypto market structure and self-custody security remain immature, with problems in ordering determinism and hardware wallet incidents. 37:41

Calls and positions

  • Every dip into the 70s for Bitcoin is a gift given where price will be 12 to 18 months from now.
    “every every time we tick into the 70s, that's a gift.”
    Very bullishTrade: higher than the 70s (12 to 18 months)Andrew, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 8:18#Bitcoin
  • The UI of exchanges will not matter within six months because AI agents will become the interface to finance.
    “the UI is not going to matter in six months”
    Very bullishPrediction: UI becomes irrelevant (six months)Austin Federa, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 17:44#AI agents
  • Perpetual futures will become standard for trading tokens and stocks, and crypto is becoming the plumbing of the financial system.
    “we've basically become the plumbing and infrastructure for the entire financial system at this point”
    BullishPrediction: perps become standardScott Melker, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 29:27#Kraken

Views expressed

  • Bitcoin's market bottom was in June.
    “I am in the it bottomed in June camp and have”
    BullishAustin Federa, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 2:13#Bitcoin
  • Bitcoin will move violently in both directions, with big upside moves and equally big crashes.
    “when it moves it's going to tear people's faces off and I think when it uh you know crashes it'll do the same”
    NeutralTilman, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 5:31#Bitcoin
  • Traditional commodity markets are being repriced after long periods of suppression, as currency inflation is spread out to fund debt and new markets.
    NeutralTilman, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 4:59
  • The Bitcoin ETF flow data showing zeros outside IBIT indicates a bottom in narratives and outside interest.
    “we are definitely at a bottom for narratives and interest”
    BullishScott Melker, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 7:11#Bitcoin
  • AI can build trading programs that, paired with low-latency data, narrow the gap between retail and market-making firms.
    “AI can build the program for you.”
    Very bullishAustin Federa, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 16:02#AI agents
  • Market makers like Citadel, Millennium and Jane Street running Bitcoin ETF and CME futures basis trades signal that crypto markets are deep and attractive.
    “The fact that they even want to play in our markets, in our sandbox, tells you what they think about our markets.”
    BullishScott Melker, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 27:15#Bitcoin
  • Crypto networks still have serious market structure problems, especially non-deterministic ordering and transaction landing, that matter for institutions.
    “the lack of determinism in ordering, the lack of determinism in landing”
    BearishAustin Federa, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 38:15#Ethereum
  • Self-custody carries higher loss risk than major US institutions, contrary to earlier assumptions.
    “you have a higher, you know, risk factor from a loss perspective than you do now with major institutions”
    BearishTilman, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 39:56#Bitcoin
  • A year-long run of Bitcoin to a million dollars would be undesirable because of unintended consequences; stability is preferable.
    “Do you want to live in a world where Bitcoin goes to a million dollars in a year?”
    NeutralScott Melker, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 43:18#Bitcoin
  • Customer service will be more valuable going forward because AI is a cheap substitute that doesn't replace people.
    “AI is is a cheap substitute. It doesn't really replace people. It never will.”
    BearishScott Melker, Oct 27, 2026Watch at 53:46

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