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Scott Melker · Oct 18, 2026 · 58 min

Crypto Is About To Change How You Buy Stocks Forever | Arjun Sethi

Kraken/Payward co-CEO Arjun Sethi argues that crypto exchanges are becoming full financial platforms (exchange, broker, bank) on a single ledger, with tokenized stocks, 24/7 collateral and AI agents making institutional-grade tools available to ordinary people. He lays out a three-stage path for tokenized equities, from wrapped shares to issuer-sponsored to native on-chain issuance, and says Kraken will take companies public on-chain. He also calls Bitcoin the most important asset of his lifetime and treats quantum and self-custody risks as manageable problems.

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Where they stand

Crypto

Very bullish

Bitcoin and on-chain rails are becoming core financial infrastructure, with tokenized assets and stablecoin payments displacing legacy intermediaries.

High conviction · years

AI

Bullish

AI agents will act as personal private bankers and move money around the clock, becoming part of the financial stack.

Medium conviction · years

Markets

Bullish

Capital markets are broken and slow, and tokenization will widen access to private-company upside and make going public continuous.

Medium conviction · years

Key takeaways

  1. Kraken (Payward) is moving into 'act two': trading, banking, asset management and services on one ledger and one risk engine, with products treated as configurations rather than new companies. 5:37
  2. Kraken has agreed to acquire Saldo, a Lithuanian bank, expected to close in 2027. It would let Kraken pay interest and lend against balances, with an EU passport to other member states. 11:03
  3. With bank, exchange and broker on one ledger, euros, bitcoin and tokenized collateral become one balance, so users can borrow against assets without selling and earn yield on idle cash around the clock. 12:42
  4. Tokenized stocks (xStocks) are one-for-one custody wrappers, still nascent at just under a billion dollars. Sethi expects the path to run through issuer-sponsored tokens (with Nasdaq, targeted next year) to native on-chain issuance. 34:39
  5. Kraken plans to take companies public via native on-chain issuance this year or next, making going public 'a dial, not a cliff' and giving employees and early holders liquidity. 37:24
  6. US perps are live through Kraken's CFTC-regulated exchange and clearing house, with plans to deploy markets on Hyperliquid for US accounts, subject to approval. 18:45
  7. Sethi calls Bitcoin the first truly scarce digital asset and a final-settlement asset with no counterparty. He frames quantum as a migration problem rather than an extinction event, and names forged signing requests, physical attacks and lost keys as the real self-custody risks. 51:40
  8. AI agents are described as a private banker for everyone, moving money and managing collateral under user-set rules, with guardrails such as spend limits, allow-lists and kill switches. 28:36

Calls and positions

  • Kraken has agreed to acquire Saldo, a Lithuanian bank, and expects the deal to close in 2027 pending regulators.
    “we expect that to close out in 2027”
    BullishPrediction: Saldo acquisition closes (2027)Arjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 11:03#Kraken
  • The end state for tokenized equities is companies issuing shares directly on-chain, though it may not happen in his lifetime.
    “the end state is the company issuing the share itself on chain”
    BullishPrediction: native on-chain share issuanceArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 34:06#Tokenized stocks
  • Kraken is working with Nasdaq on issuer-sponsored tokenized shares and is targeting something next year.
    “we're working with, you know, Nasdaq and, you know, targeting something for next year”
    BullishPrediction: issuer-sponsored tokenized shares with Nasdaq (next year)Arjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 35:11#Kraken#Nasdaq
  • Kraken will take companies public via native on-chain issuance this year or next.
    “this year or even next year, you will see us and we're working with companies today”
    BullishPrediction: companies taken public with native issuance (this year or next)Arjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 37:24#Kraken#Tokenized stocks
  • Agents will serve as a private banker for everyone, acting under customer-set rules.
    “now you can have an agent that is that for everyone”
    Very bullishPrediction: agents as personal private bankersArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 28:36#AI agents
  • Kraken's regulated exchange intends to deploy markets on Hyperliquid for US accounts, subject to approval, and says it is very close.
    “Our regulated exchange intends to deploy markets there to allow US accounts”
    BullishTrade: Hyperliquid markets for US accountsArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 19:18#Kraken

Views expressed

  • Putting bank, exchange and broker on one ledger lets customers borrow against assets without selling them and earn on cash between trades.
    “you can borrow against your asset without having to sell it to do the next thing”
    BullishArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 12:42#Bitcoin#Kraken
  • Tokenized stocks are still nascent at just under a billion dollars, a drop in the bucket compared with what the next ten years will look like.
    “today we're just, you know, shy of a billion”
    BullishArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 34:39#Tokenized stocks
  • Going public today is slow and expensive and the process is the slowest piece of financial plumbing left, while on-chain rails can make it a gradual dial.
    “It is the slowest uh piece of financial plumbing left”
    NeutralArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 42:18
  • Mechanisms for companies like OpenAI and Anthropic reaching trillion-dollar valuations before public investors can participate are broken.
    “the mechanism of these companies being worth worth a trillion plus is broken”
    NeutralArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 43:58#OpenAI#Anthropic
  • Bitcoin is the first truly scarce digital asset with final settlement and no counterparty, unlike every other financial asset.
    “it's a first truly scarce digital asset”
    Very bullishArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 51:40#Bitcoin
  • Quantum computing threatens signatures rather than hashing and is a coordination and migration problem, not an extinction event for Bitcoin.
    “that's a migration problem. That that is not an extinction event”
    BullishArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 55:30#Quantum computing#Bitcoin
  • Self-custody has real weaknesses, including forged signing requests, physical attacks and lost keys, with failed inheritance described as a ticking time bomb.
    “self-custody that fails on inheritances and safety. I think that's like a ticking time bomb”
    BearishArjun Sethi, Oct 18, 2026Watch at 54:58#Bitcoin

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